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		<title>Where nobody should be (or, Jeff gets in a fight on the internet)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yelp is a wretched, boiling cesspool of no-talent, know-nothing assholes (that one in particular reviewed Times Square of all places, cripes) with nothing better to do than sling mud a back and a forth all day &#8212; we love it. Still, gratification is hard to come by in that community; aside from their paltry comment [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wheretoddpwontbe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/ribs1.gif"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-70" src="http://www.wheretoddpwontbe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/ribs1.gif" alt="ribs1" width="287" height="436" /></a>Yelp is a wretched, boiling cesspool of no-talent, know-nothing <a href="http://www.yelp.com/user_details?userid=vNl-NjJ7I1StHZ85S08ftw">assholes</a> (that one in particular reviewed <em>Times Square</em> of all places, cripes) with nothing better to do than sling mud a back and a forth all day &#8212; we love it. Still, gratification is hard to come by in that community; aside from their paltry comment / feedback system, it&#8217;s hard to know whose eyes are feasting on one&#8217;s reviews.</p>
<p>Which is why it always helps to throw a good personal insult whenever you&#8217;re reviewing something, like this, that I wrote about <a href="http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/restaurants/archives/2005/03/wombat.html">Wombat</a> in Williamsburg a while back:</p>
<blockquote><p>Been here thrice, and the last time was the first I&#8217;ve deviated from the oyster/lobster specials and ordered off the menu. The beef ribs were straight up gross &#8230; sort of the culinary equivalent of the schlubby gut guy on Aqua Teen Hunger Force, and our waiter (a bit of a <strong>schlubby gut guy</strong> himself, come to think of it) made some pretty hilarious service mistakes, including bringing one in our party three oysters when she had ordered 12, and adding an extra beer on our tab.</p>
<p>The side dishes are good. Matter of fact, if they ditched all the entrees and kept the sandwiches and bar food, I&#8217;d probably bump up my rating.</p></blockquote>
<p>Seemed innocuous enough &#8212; even generous, given that I rated it a 3/5 &#8212; at the time, although, as I wrote in a follow-up post, i do concede that &#8220;schlubby gut guy&#8221; is something of a mean-spirited sobriquet.</p>
<p>Long about two weeks later, I get this over Yelp&#8217;s private messaging:</p>
<blockquote><p>schlubby??? i know ive let myself go, but really.  but i bet it was really busy.  so  it can be tough.  u understand right??  im just  guy tryin to get buy. no surprise?!?, but i dont want to be a bartender/waiter my whole life.  i want to be just like you.  an asshole who stays up at night writing shitty reviews.  perhaps its not the service.</p>
<p>ITS YOU.</p></blockquote>
<p>I notice that one of the most common counterattacks on Yelp &#8212; really, on all the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/opinion/26dowd.html">anonymous web</a> &#8212; is to simply hold up a mirror, claiming that &#8212; what? &#8212; my criticism is somehow a byproduct of my insecurities or something. I&#8217;ll hold that debate for another time, maybe its true, I don&#8217;t know, doesn&#8217;t matter. The food still sucked. So I wrote back:</p>
<blockquote><p>nah, like i said, i&#8217;m pretty sure it was the incompetent service and the crappy food.</p>
<p>In fairness to everyone, though, I&#8217;ll go ahead and post your message on the restaurant&#8217;s page &#8212; I&#8217;m sure everyone will want to know the aplomb with which you accept criticism.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which I fully intended to do, except that about five seconds later, schlubby gut guy gets back at me with this:</p>
<blockquote><p>ah, i was hacked, i have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about? i work in a museum <img src='http://www.wheretoddpwontbe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   i&#8217;ll reset my password, oh and i did not send you a message</p></blockquote>
<p>Theres another web excuse du jour. &#8220;I was hacked&#8221; &#8230; surely &#8220;the hackers&#8221; have better things to do than write nasty things to people on Yelp. Things like breaking into your mail and posting all those nasty pics your girlfriend took of you online. Things like that.  Anyway, the rest of it goes this way:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Me:</strong> oh yeah? what museum?<br />
<strong>schlubby gut guy:</strong> none of your beezwax, what restaurant were you writing about?<br />
<strong>Me:</strong> The one you work at dumbfuck.<br />
<strong>schlubby gut guy:</strong> way to get a riled up i seriously did not write you that message, but you can go on hating me douchebag, sounds like you have a swell life to get all fucking mad on yelp of all places, what a loser,</p></blockquote>
<p>(sic).</p>
<p>As promised, I posted all of that right on the restaurant&#8217;s page, and re-rated the restaurant, giving it one out of five stars, the lowest possible rating. OH BOY did that set off a shitstorm. A few hours later, I got a message from someone purporting to be the owner &#8212; and I have no reason to believe it wasn&#8217;t &#8212; telling me he was, well, read for yourself:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jeff, I am sorry you have had a bad experience at my restaurant. I am also quite sure that none of my employees have made this alleged contact with you. As with any restaurant, we can not be all things to all people but do our best to be a nice, friendly neighborhood place with good food and drink. As far as the beef ribs go, we have tweaked them and they are what they should be.<br />
Regards,<br />
Craig, Owner, Wombat</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope by &#8220;tweaked,&#8221; he means they&#8217;re no longer slow-cooking those ribs by tossing them in the summer sun for a few hours. I&#8217;ll never know. As for the other things they&#8217;re &#8220;doing their best&#8221; at, fail, fail and more fail. Later that day I got a message from yet another Yelper (they call themselves that. If I ever write that again find me and shoot me, thanks), claiming to be the REAL schlubby gut guy, who said it definitely wasn&#8217;t him.. yadda yadda. I then offered for them to somehow prove to me they weren&#8217;t trying to game me, and never heard back.</p>
<p><a href="http://boskolives.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/dick-cheney-smiling.jpg">Better to be hated than ignored.</a></p>
<p>[<a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/wombat-brooklyn">Wombat on Yelp</a>]</p>
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